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pete 11-25-2012 04:27 PM

getting started
 
I owned a cheap charcoal smoker a few years ago and had some success using it. It finally burned up and I have not replaced it.

I am thinking of getting a new better grill/smoker and am looking for advice.

I liked the taste and aroma of the charcoal but it was difficult to maintain the proper heat.

What are the pros/cons of elect and gas. I have also looked at the new kamado grills but don't know if I want to spend that much money since I won't be using it that much.

Thanks for any help, Pete

bbquzz 11-25-2012 04:30 PM

Weber Smokey Mountain ... Oh yea Welcome to the Forum Pete!

bigwheel 11-25-2012 05:33 PM

Hey Pete..welcome. I like electric cooking for a host of reasons much too numberous to mention. Now when Obamie collapses the economy and the lights go out a person might wish they had been hoarding briquettes. No central power or generator needed. Course the place where a person stockpiles the charcoal to keep it high and dry could prob hold a bunch of cans of beanie weenies which do not need cooking. Its good to examine all the angles sometimes.

dledmo 11-25-2012 07:20 PM

Check your local Craigslist for a used one. Often times as winter sets in people are practically giving them away. Otherwise we can all meet at bigwheel's place for a weenie roast when the zombies attack/economy collapses/Mayan calendar ends

Vermin999 11-25-2012 08:29 PM

What Buzz said or if your some what handy look into building yourself an Ugly Drum Smoker (UDS). They are very easy to cook with too and can be made for less than $100 or less depending how good you are scrounging around for parts.

pete 11-26-2012 08:37 AM

Forgive me if I ask some very naive questions.

I looked at a real kamado grill and it seemed impressive. It was at a show home and I am sure there were professionals doing the cooking. They were not using briquettes but lump charcoal. It had a damper top and bottom and they told me that it was very easy to control heat.

That is a mute point. I am not going to pay $700 dollars for a grill anyway.

I have seen a less expensive clone that is made of metal with oven insulation between the layers. It is called the "char-griller akorn kamado kooker" Has anyone had any experience with these grills? According to what I have read the cooking temps are easily controlled.

As I mentioned before I would like something that is easy to control the temp. It gets pretty cold here in the winter so I need something that is pretty well insulated if I use charcoal.

I guess gas or electric is more predictable but does it have the same flavor as charcoal? Where do you find lump charcoal?

I am practically new to the world of heavy grilling/cooking/smoking. I have done just enough to start getting interested. Hamburgers, steaks and a little smoking in the past. I will be asking a lot of questions.

bbquzz 11-26-2012 08:59 AM

Pete not sure where you live but our Forum member Griff lives in Alaska and has reported single digit temps already, he has a couple Weber Smokey Mountains. They are almost set it and forget it easy to control temperature. All that said despite BW's kidding he does have loads of experience and likes the electric cookers. One last suggestion if you do decide to go kamado style be sure to look at the Big Green Egg, more money, but the standard of the style and like the Weber you will only need to buy one. Watch this thread for a few more days as I'm sure others will weigh in.

Max 11-26-2012 12:41 PM

Pete, I have to say I was in your same situation a couple of years back. I was just starting out with smoking, after years of grilling. The people here are great people to learn from, but when it come to different manufacturers of smokers, some can be alittle biased. I have to say though when you buy something like a Weber you are buying a superior product, and you will get years of service out of them. Hell for most Webers there is a 10 year warranty on them. BGE well for the mini your talking almost $400. Like I said I was at the same place you are at now. Not knowing what to get, and having a budget.

If all you can afford is a cheaper smoker for now, its all good. you can always get a better one down the road. All my smokers are el-cheapos. The food tastes the same, it is just a matter of what you have available at the time. There is nothing wrong with getting something cheaper. It is a matter of how you implement the equipment you have, and if you are enjoying yourself when you are cooking.

john pen 11-26-2012 02:07 PM

Ill vote for the WSM also.. But I also agree with MAX. They all will turn out a good product, it just depends how much time you want to invest. My old Brinkman made a fine pork butt, however it needed tending every twenty to thirty mins. My WSM will hold a steady temp for the most part for 10 to 12 hours, with maybe just adding a little charcoal or water

bigwheel 11-26-2012 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pete (Post 253825)
Forgive me if I ask some very naive questions.

Icontrol the temp. It gets pretty cold here in the winter so I need something that is pretty well insulated if I use charcoal.

I guess gas or electric is more predictable but does it have the same flavor as charcoal? Where do you find lump charcoal?

I aint ever smelt or tasted any good flavor coming from charcoal. It would be feasible if it were impregnated with wood aka Kingsford mesquite (which produces a real nasty flavor) because they get the mesquite from the wrong geography. Its just dumb yankmes trying to make a buck. They do not realize the subtle nuances of such things. Best bet for charcoal is find one that stinks up your goodies the least. Wood is where the action is young man. Electric base is a bunch less treacherous than charcoal. If you have a nice budget consider a Smokin Tex. Pal o mine has the 1600 buck home model and he caters bbq meals for his pals who own high dollar offsets and pellet poopers and are too lazy to baby set em. It cooks whilst the cook sleeps..lol. They also have a smaller one for about half that price..but its only plastic huh? I would get the big one if it was me. Also may find some like new for good prices on craigs etc. as was previously mentioned pertaining to most bbq cooker gizmos. Yups have short attention spans...lol. Hey just noticed free shipping..best jump on it.

SmokinTex Smoker Ovens | Barbecue Electric Smokers | Commercial Restaurant Smokers, Residential, and Catering

bbquzz 11-26-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bigwheel (Post 253846)
I aint ever smelt or tasted any good flavor coming from charcoal. It would be feasible if it were impregnated with wood aka Kingsford mesquite (which produces a real nasty flavor) because they get the mesquite from the wrong geography. Its just dumb yankmes trying to make a buck. They do not realize the subtle nuances of such things. Best bet for charcoal is find one that stinks up your goodies the least. Wood is where the action is young man. Electric base is a bunch less treacherous than charcoal. If you have a nice budget consider a Smokin Tex. Pal o mine has the 1600 buck home model and he caters bbq meals for his pals who own high dollar offsets and pellet poopers and are too lazy to baby set em. It cooks whilst the cook sleeps..lol. They also have a smaller one for about half that price..but its only plastic huh? I would get the big one if it was me. Also may find some like new for good prices on craigs etc. as was previously mentioned pertaining to most bbq cooker gizmos. Yups have short attention spans...lol. Hey just noticed free shipping..best jump on it.

SmokinTex Smoker Ovens | Barbecue Electric Smokers | Commercial Restaurant Smokers, Residential, and Catering

Not sure if I were rich rather than so darn good lookin' I'd try the Smokin Tex looks pretty easy.

pete 11-26-2012 07:48 PM

I just looked on line at the WSM on line. It looks like a nice unit. Can it also be used a grill? I like to cook steak on the grill and my gas grill won't get hot enough to sear it the way I like.

Am I hearing that there are some good gas cookers out there? Which is the best all around, gas or charcoal?

I know I am asking a lot of questions and will probably ask a lot more before I make my decision.

Who better to ask than the pros?

bigwheel 11-26-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bbquzz (Post 253850)
Not sure if I were rich rather than so darn good lookin' I'd try the Smokin Tex looks pretty easy.

Same here. If I ever go nuts and buy another cooking moochine it will be one of them. They are supposed to survive just fine left out in the elements with the cover on. I dont have much place to store stuff under cover so that is a plus for me. In fact I may instruct the Little Bride to have Santa put this order on his shopping list..lol. Naw..I will survive with the electric Brinkmann for a while longer. Ya know I was gonna try to find one of them for Pete but it keep taking me to some other brand which looked just like it. What mystery is afoot here? Thanks.

Hambone1950 11-26-2012 08:03 PM

weber smoky mountain cooker if you want to use charcoal....maybe the masterbuilt electric if you want to go that route....whatever you get , youll be glad you did.

bigwheel 11-27-2012 09:58 AM

Masterbuilts seem to be worthless hunks of junk. Total bizarre injuneering.

pete 11-28-2012 06:05 PM

I will quit beating this dead horse until there is nothing left but shoes. Thanks for your patience.

Anyone have any thoughts on the Char-broil American Gourmet? It is a low end cooker and I worry about getting and keeping the temp right.

I will spend the extra money for a better cooker but I am just doing research now. I like the looks of the WSM and also the Char grill Akorn.

wittdog 11-30-2012 12:12 AM

U get what you pay for.

Bob In Fla. 12-01-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wittdog (Post 253932)
U get what you pay for.

What he said.

Weber is the absolute Best Bang for the Buck. Pretty easy yo control the temperature and you're cooking with wood!

If ya wanna use electric or gas, don't you already have one of those things in your kitchen???

BOB
still uses my Webers every now and then

bigwheel 12-01-2012 02:08 PM

Reddi Killowatt would not enjoy some of the negative vibes around here.

Bob In Fla. 12-01-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bigwheel (Post 253943)
Reddi Killowatt would not enjoy some of the negative vibes around here.

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