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Old 07-30-2007, 07:02 AM   #1
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Input on turn in boxes

Ok guys I like some input and tips (if your willing to share) about how are boxes look….The brisket looks the worst cuz we were running out of time (presentation didn’t matter much cuz I knew it sucked)…Ok thanks in advance….



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Old 07-30-2007, 07:29 AM   #2
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too much green in the ribs and brisket.
Maybe trim off that little charred piece of chicken.
Other than that, I think it looks damn good...but
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:31 AM   #3
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OK, here goes, just remember you asked for this:

Chicken: It looks blotchy, uneven application of sauce or something, doesn't have a uniform appearance, except for size; they all appear to be about the same size. Garnish kind of plain, some parsley would have spruced that up a bit. It just doesn't jump out at you with any type of WOW, that looks great. (7or Eight)

Ribs: the box looks too crowded, you could have eliminated either the top or the bottom piece and it would have looked less cluttered. Better job on the garnish on this box, looks better than the chicken. I think the color looks fine, hard to see the meat, but it looks like some sauce smudging on the two side pieces on the meat. But overall, I'd give it an (Eight), it looks appealing to me.

Pork: Much better garnish job! That piece right in the center of the box, caught my eye right away. The bark pieces look good, the meat looks a little mushy, like you just grabbed a "clump" of it and put it in the box. (Seven)

Brisket: Well the meat looks dry, no uniformity is size of slice, looks like it was thrown together. Look at your pork box garnish and look at your brisket, you'd never guess it came from the same team. (Six)

That all being said, I'd eat the chicken, ribs and pork, the brisket I'd eat, just doesn't look as appetizing. Good backyard stuff, but comp quality lacking.

IMHO and you asked. Tell us what your actual scores were later on.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:16 AM   #4
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I agree with Bruce about the pork looking a bit mushy. I noticed that myself and I don't know diddly about judging turn in boxes.

I would say Bruce is giving some honest feedback that I would appreciate if and when I ever compete.
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:10 AM   #5
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Thanks for the honest input... definitely helpful (and would appreciate more of the same).

you're right on with the pork... a certain Mrs. Dog had a brainfart while prepping the meat and clumped it together. Tried to pull it out and loosen it up but the damage was done.

So in general, should the entire outer edges be filled with green (like on the pork) with none of the box showing? I guess I thought that was too much green....
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In comparison, I would also like to see Bubba's turn ins.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:16 PM   #7
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Bubba's ribs and chicken turn in boxes.

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Old 07-30-2007, 03:28 PM   #8
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I agree with Bruce on this one Dave. Nothing more to add. Bubba's chicken looked real good. Good concistant color and great garnish.
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I don't think I have ever seen a chicken box that looked better than Bubba's

certainly helps to know what I should aspire to.
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:09 PM   #10
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My appearance scores on chicken were 878998
Ribs were 988688
Pork 986988
Brisket 999998

I thought the chicken was the bomb...appearance wise. It was one of the few things I liked about my turn ins.

Witt, I really liked the frame on the pork.
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The only thing I would add or reinforce was the frame on the pork box. It looks clean and well done. We're thinking of eliminating the appearance of green leaf lettuce completly.

Building boxes looks pretty easy in the pictures. Everybody has the best intentions when they walk up to the table. I'm considering a camera mounted over the table hooked up to a monitor so we can see the box. It'll never happen. I'm a simple guy. I did think Finney had a pretty ingenious idea.

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Old 07-30-2007, 07:34 PM   #12
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My appearance scores on chicken were 878998
Ribs were 988688
Pork 986988
Brisket 999998

I thought the chicken was the bomb...appearance wise. It was one of the few things I liked about my turn ins.

Witt, I really liked the frame on the pork.
How the heck do 5 people see 8 or 9 and one sees a 6? Two times that happened to you Bubba. Did the 6 have his glasses?
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ok, here's my input.

chicken - i like the way thighs are placed in the box. they are all similar in size and shape. like bruce said though the color looks blotchy and the garnish is sparse.

ribs - better on the garnish and fwiw i like full boxes so i don't think it looks overcrowded. things i think would look better is to place the side ribs on their sides to show off their smoke rings and to leave off the ends of the racks (i may not be seeing what's really there). the ribs also looks a little blotchy like the chicken. did you use the same brush?

pork - i can't see anything to complain about. i guess the pulled pork in the middle looks a little clumped together but i'd be happy turning that box in.

brisket - i like the way you layered the lettuce, it fills in box, but your slices are still look tiny. also the slices look dry and like has already been said the slices aren't even.
The brush and the sauce my have been the issue...I used a silicone brush and the sauce was on the runny side...
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I've seen this Brian guy brushing on sauce -- he's one meticulous brusher.



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Nice Crocs you got there Brian, same ones I've got. Comfy little things.
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You got to watch them holey Crocs when your runnin' a stick burner, or a Stumps. Stray coals or hot grease can make them very uncomfortable. I recomend either Birkenstocks or Klogs. Both very good shoes.

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Old 07-31-2007, 10:28 PM   #17
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Instead of commenting, i'll just show pics to compare




Chicken n ribs were top tens, pork n brisket were better than average scores
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:06 PM   #18
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Sorry, brisket must have got eaten Will put up tonite!
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:51 PM   #19
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Dave,

I havent read anyones post but here's my opinions as a comp cook with over 40 contests cooked and as a KCBS judge with about 20 BBQ and NEBS grilling contests judger or table captained.

Chicken looks good I'd give it an 8. You couls evean up the lettice a little on the right but it's primarally a meat contest. You might want to shine up the meat with something.

Ribs looked nice, nothing special just nice 7.Lettice looks ok but meat looks dry. I know you shouldent score dryness on the apearence score but if they look dry it isnt as apiyizing to me.

Pork, Lettice looks great, once again ity needs a shine. My eyes focus on the piece in the center that has some strings of meat covering the bark. I'd score 7-8

Brisket looks bad to me I'g give it a 5 (below average) It's sloppy, unevean meat and unevean sauce.
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