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Old 03-31-2007, 10:21 AM   #1
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I have been requested by a neighbor to do a whole hog in the beging of august. Before I comit to doing and give them a price it I was hoping to clear up a few questions I had. I have a 48x24 sized somker so I was figuring that I could get a 50 pound pig one there. Does that sound about right? Also around how many people whould a 50-60 pound hog feed? If I was cooking it around 250 on an offset smoker about how long whould take. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 03-31-2007, 10:53 AM   #2
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How Big of Pig Do You Need?
Approximate Percentages of Loss due to slaughter, cook, bone, fat
On the Hoof/ Hanging weight / Meat /Will feed (approx.) @1/4 lb pp

20.00 13.00 5.85 23.40
30.00 19.50 8.78 35.10
40.00 26.00 11.70 46.80
50.00 32.50 14.63 58.50
60.00 39.00 17.55 70.20
70.00 45.50 20.48 81.90
80.00 52.00 23.40 93.60
90.00 58.50 26.33 105.30
100.00 65.00 29.25 117.00
110.00 71.50 32.18 128.70
120.00 78.00 35.10 140.40
130.00 84.50 38.03 152.10
140.00 91.00 40.95 163.80
150.00 97.50 43.88 175.50
160.00 104.00 46.80 187.20
170.00 110.50 49.73 198.90


*Actual percentages may (and probably will) vary. This is to be used as a guideline.
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sorry that's hard to read..

also, if the pig is too big, saw the legs off as much as you need to.
You gonna buttefly this thing, or just pop him on there?
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Old 03-31-2007, 10:59 AM   #4
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I'd listen to the whole hog podcast with Chris (Pigs on the Wing) too.
Right off the bat, I'd say a 60 pounder is gonna be close to 8 hours.
But I'm no expert here.
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Old 03-31-2007, 11:08 AM   #5
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sorry that's hard to read..

also, if the pig is too big, saw the legs off as much as you need to.
You gonna buttefly this thing, or just pop him on there?
Cappy I am not really sure what I how I am going to do it yet. I have seen alot of people do it buttflied hog so may be that is the way Ill do it. Is one way better than the other?

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How Big of Pig Do You Need?
Approximate Percentages of Loss due to slaughter, cook, bone, fat
On the Hoof/ Hanging weight / Meat /Will feed (approx.) @1/4 lb pp

20.00 13.00 5.85 23.40
30.00 19.50 8.78 35.10
40.00 26.00 11.70 46.80
50.00 32.50 14.63 58.50
60.00 39.00 17.55 70.20
70.00 45.50 20.48 81.90
80.00 52.00 23.40 93.60
90.00 58.50 26.33 105.30
100.00 65.00 29.25 117.00
110.00 71.50 32.18 128.70
120.00 78.00 35.10 140.40
130.00 84.50 38.03 152.10
140.00 91.00 40.95 163.80
150.00 97.50 43.88 175.50
160.00 104.00 46.80 187.20
170.00 110.50 49.73 198.90


*Actual percentages may (and probably will) vary. This is to be used as a guideline.
Whew Cappy. With all of that I'm glad I know a 100 pound hog will feed 50 - 75 people depending on the style of sides and presentation.

If you need more pork, do one hog for the show and boston butts to supplement the meat supply. You get a much easier cook and better yield.

As a rule, I get $300 plus the cost of the hog to do a cook. That's just for the hog. I quote a price for sides on a seperate sheet. It's going to take you most of a day to cook the animal. With shopping, preperation, and presentation I look at the job taking at least 20 hours. I never leave a hog for business unattended. If something were to happen, I would never be able to replace what I have gauranteed in a doable time frame.


The whole hog podcast is a good tool. Chris did a nice job.

Good Luck and Good Q!

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Old 03-31-2007, 05:57 PM   #7
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I have been requested by a neighbor to do a whole hog in the beging of august. Before I comit to doing and give them a price it I was hoping to clear up a few questions I had. I have a 48x24 sized somker so I was figuring that I could get a 50 pound pig one there. Does that sound about right? Also around how many people whould a 50-60 pound hog feed? If I was cooking it around 250 on an offset smoker about how long whould take. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Chris, I don't know if any of my info will help you.... but the last hog I did was 186 lbs. cash & carry from the local slaughter house. The 186 lb. hog fed 76 people with one aluminum pan of leftover meat.
There were about 60 adults and 16 kids ranging from 3-12 years old. There also was chicken halves and tons of sides and deserts and beer....not many of the chickens got eaten, so I'd say it was mostly a pork meal.

I can measure my cooker if you'd like but I had to cut off the head and the legs at the knees to fit it in the rotisserie cage I have.

Do you plan on splaying it, rotisserie, halving it etc...?????

Click this...>>> http://www.bbq-4-u.com/viewtopic.php?t=5643 <<< it will take you to my post on here back in July of 06' with pics of my cooker, the pig and the size pan of meat left over.

Feel free to PM me with any particular questions that you think I may be of use on.

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http://www.bbq-4-u.com/viewtopic.php?t= ... c&start=15 Was the last one I did. I do mine on a rotis. around 275-300 over direct coals I think you may be disapointed in the yield from a 50 pounder, best to have some butts done for back up. I think wittdog did a small one on his off-set, he may fill you in on the yield a little better. I have a hundred pound min. on whole hog, that's about good for 50-60 people. (adults)
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Thanks for the help guys. The plan is to do it one my gator budget mobile. Which is an offset smoker. So I will not be able to do it rotisserie style.

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Here is Captain Morgans pig weight info set out as a table. Click the picture to get the full sized image.


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Great info. I've been volunteer to cook a pig for Festus's 70th birthday on APril 14. I need all the help I can get!
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Here is Captain Morgans pig weight info set out as a table. Click the picture to get the full sized image.


NO WAY that can be right. I must be doing something wrong!
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Here is Captain Morgans pig weight info set out as a table. Click the picture to get the full sized image.


NO WAY that can be right. I must be doing something wrong!
Me too!....

According to that chart a 20 lb. walking piglet produces 5.85 lbs. of edible meat....( reasonable I guess)...but those 5 lbs. are going to feed 23 people?????? Damn!...they must be charting that by the cafeteria at the elementary school or the old age home.

The "on the hoof" to the "hanging weight" ratios seem somewhat believable...( although under 50 lbs. of edible meat from a 170 lb hog seems off )......but the # of people the chart will feed is gotta be waaaayyyyyy wrong all the way down.

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For comparison, the National Pork Board says:

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Dressed pigs are 70% of the live weight.
Smaller animals will have a greater percentage of bone and skin and will yield proportionately fewer servings of meat.

75 lbs. dressed pig: 30 lbs. cooked, chopped pork
100 lbs. dressed pig: 40 lbs. cooked, chopped pork
125 lbs. dressed pig: 50 lbs. cooked, chopped pork
14 lbs. uncooked shoulder: 10 lbs. cooked
6-7 lbs. uncooked Boston Butt: 3 lbs. cooked
14 lbs. uncooked ham: 6-7 lbs. cooked

A good estimate is 1 ½ lbs serving size per person
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For comparison, the National Pork Board says:

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Dressed pigs are 70% of the live weight.
Smaller animals will have a greater percentage of bone and skin and will yield proportionately fewer servings of meat.

75 lbs. dressed pig: 30 lbs. cooked, chopped pork
100 lbs. dressed pig: 40 lbs. cooked, chopped pork
125 lbs. dressed pig: 50 lbs. cooked, chopped pork
14 lbs. uncooked shoulder: 10 lbs. cooked
6-7 lbs. uncooked Boston Butt: 3 lbs. cooked
14 lbs. uncooked ham: 6-7 lbs. cooked

A good estimate is 1 ½ lbs serving size per person
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(Can't think of the last time I ate 1 ½ lbs of meat at one sitting. )
Does anyone else think that's it's cool there is a National Pork Board and Unity has the link....
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For comparison, the National Pork Board says:

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Dressed pigs are 70% of the live weight.
Smaller animals will have a greater percentage of bone and skin and will yield proportionately fewer servings of meat.

75 lbs. dressed pig: 30 lbs. cooked, chopped pork
100 lbs. dressed pig: 40 lbs. cooked, chopped pork
125 lbs. dressed pig: 50 lbs. cooked, chopped pork
14 lbs. uncooked shoulder: 10 lbs. cooked
6-7 lbs. uncooked Boston Butt: 3 lbs. cooked
14 lbs. uncooked ham: 6-7 lbs. cooked

A good estimate is 1 ½ lbs serving size per person
--John
(Can't think of the last time I ate 1 ½ lbs of meat at one sitting. )
Does anyone else think that's it's cool there is a National Pork Board and Unity has the link....
I had NO CLUE there was a National Pork Board !

but it doesn't surprise me that Unity knows it...he's like a library of information.........to me that's a good thing!
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I found a good site with more info here they say the following: -

Dressed weight is 70% of Live weight
Edible weight is 87% of Dressed weight
Cooked edible weight is 45% of Edible weight

So I made up a new table and added the calculations for 4 Oz and 5.33 Oz portions.



Perhaps someone who has cooked loads of hogs, can take a look and let us know if it is in the ballpark?
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