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Old 08-05-2006, 06:14 AM   #1
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Thinking about a ceramic???

If any of you ever think about considering a ceramic cooker over a WSM, then think AGAIN. I'm not discounting the cooking performance of the ceramics at all, because I've seen and tasted fantastic food off of them and they are great cookers. But..... you always have to worrk about them cracking or breaking. And with the money you spend on a ceramic vs. a WSM it's just too much of a risk if you ask me!
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Old 08-05-2006, 06:20 AM   #2
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I'd love one one for winter cooking. Think I'll ask oinkinheat if I can try one out this winter.
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Old 08-05-2006, 07:06 AM   #3
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I'd love one one for winter cooking. Think I'll ask oinkinheat if I can try one out this winter.
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Old 08-05-2006, 07:15 AM   #4
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I'd love one one for winter cooking. Think I'll ask oinkinheat if I can try one out this winter.
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Guess he didn't read the link??
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Old 08-05-2006, 08:20 AM   #5
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Larry,
The problems cited in the link are about the Primo-Oval. That's a product Primo introduced a year or two ago. Not the typical egg shape.

My cooker, dubbed Einstien, is a Primo-Kamado - kissing cousin to the BGE. It works in blizzards, high winds, almost any weather.

Drawbacks are weight and limited cooking capacity, I'll give you that.

Don't know if the poster is using lighter-fluid. The instuction manual that came with Einstien was very up front stating to never use lighter fluid to start the fire. Perhaps that the problem the poster is having. Perhaps it is just a design flaw in the oval version.
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The problems cited in the link are about the Primo-Oval. That's a product Primo introduced a year or two ago. Not the typical egg shape.

My cooker, dubbed Einstien, is a Primo-Kamado - kissing cousin to the BGE. It works in blizzards, high winds, almost any weather.

Drawbacks are weight and limited cooking capacity, I'll give you that.

Don't know if the poster is using lighter-fluid. The instuction manual that came with Einstien was very up front stating to never use lighter fluid to start the fire. Perhaps that the problem the poster is having. Perhaps it is just a design flaw in the oval version.
Where in my post did I mention BGE's? I stated "ceramic's", meaning ALL ceramics are susceptible to cracking, which they are. The user that made that post has 4 "ceramic" cookers and understands how to use them. There was obviously a flaw in that cooker.

As far as being able to cook in any weather with your ceramic, I'm happy to sayI can cook on my WSM in any weather as well. I paid $189 for my cooker, how much did you pay for your ceramic?
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Old 08-05-2006, 09:08 AM   #7
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I have a son living on the shores of Lake Michigan year around, and he uses his Big Green Egg year around. It will generate intense heat. Everything that I have had from it has been great. Last year at the Bel Air B-B-Q Bash, a state championship event, Big Green Egg users took more trophies than anyone. That will be held again this coming Friday and Saturday. I'll make a point to see how they do this year. I would buy one in a minute if I didn't already have a charcoal grill, a gasser, and an offset smoker. It's a natural, I think, for people who don't like to "fiddle" with their fire, and who prefer to use charcoal as their main source of heat.
Either I wasn't clear on the subject or everyone's misunderstanding my post. I said the ceramics were great cookers, but are "breakable", which is a fact compared to a WSM. No need to defend the ceramics, I know they work and work well.
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Old 08-05-2006, 09:33 AM   #8
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Hey Larry - take a pill
The poster referred to problems with his Primo Oval. I referenced the BGE as Einstein is the orginal cooker made by Primo and looks like a BGE. Most folks know what a BGE is and don't know what a Primo Kamado is.

Yes, All ceramics can crack. Yes, the WSM is cheaper. You could get nearly 3 WSMs to what I laid out for Einstein. So what?

I don't own a WSM and have never cooked on one so I can make no judgement as to which one puts out a better product. I suspect that if the pit-jockey was familar with both the product would be the same.

I do know that I didn't have to make several "modifications", didn't have to fabricate a wind shield or worry about it walking away (as in thieves)

I do know that Einstein will hold 250 degrees for 8 - 10 hours in 5 degree weather without having to refuel. Which means I get to spend more time out of the elements and not effing around outside in rain, hail and snow or worry about starting a forest fire.

Don't like ceramics, hey don't buy one.

I do plan on buying a WSM for the portability factor. Weber makes a good product and I have 2 of charcoal grills.
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Hey Larry - take a pill
The poster referred to problems with his Primo Oval. I referenced the BGE as Einstein is the orginal cooker made by Primo and looks like a BGE. Most folks know what a BGE is and don't know what a Primo Kamado is.

Yes, All ceramics can crack. Yes, the WSM is cheaper. You could get nearly 3 WSMs to what I laid out for Einstein. So what?

I don't own a WSM and have never cooked on one so I can make no judgement as to which one puts out a better product. I suspect that if the pit-jockey was familar with both the product would be the same.

I do know that I didn't have to make several "modifications", didn't have to fabricate a wind shield or worry about it walking away (as in thieves)

I do know that Einstein will hold 250 degrees for 8 - 10 hours in 5 degree weather without having to refuel. Which means I get to spend more time out of the elements and not effing around outside in rain, hail and snow or worry about starting a forest fire.

Don't like ceramics, hey don't buy one.

I do plan on buying a WSM for the portability factor. Weber makes a good product and I have 2 of charcoal grills.
Take a pill? I'll ignore that.

Like I said you either misinterpreted my post or you just don't know any better, probably a little of both. My post was simply to make people aware of the possiblity of a ceramic cracking. You've obviously taken offence to the post and that is why you are defending them so much.

I also never said I didn't like ceramics. I simply stated they're alot of money for the risk of breaking compared to less money and a more durable equally or better functioning WSM.

BTW, I don't have a wind break, a guru, nor have I made any modifications to my WSM's and I can cook for a minimum of 12 hours without refueling or even touching. That's in any type of weather.
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Not to take sides but I have to agree with Larry. He simply mentioned that ceramics have a chance of cracking and for those looking into them to do more research regarding the durability or simply just how to use them.

Now this may be an isolated case regarding the cracking on that guys ceramic.

Obviously Dats has a ceramic and has been using it for a long time. Maybe he's smarter and knows how the cooker functions compared to that guy who just got his ceramic and it cracked within the first few cooks.

For us simpletons, maybe, a WSM is the 'easier' decision and so far no one has complained, that we know of, of any problems with their WSM.

Well all live in different regions with varying temperatures during specific times of year. Dats in Colorado, Larry In VA, Me in KS. We all know what snow is and freezing temps and learn how to cope with it. For some, staying outside to adjust temps in the cold maybe isin't their cup of tea, maybe it is for others.

There are pro's and con's to both, bottom line is that they are both capable of producing great Q.

Larry was by no means talking down about the ceramics, just bringing up a point that someone (including myself) may not realize regarding the ceramics, besides they aren't cheap either.
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