Captain Morgan
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as in the Big Green one. I stop by their forum from time to time and they sure do love them.
Ok, Be honest....have you ever been tempted to buy an Egg?
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Honestly? Yeah, I have. Use to see them in the Pinch-A Penny pool supply stores in Orlando. I had an electric ECB at the time and was having trouble keeping the temps down on it and was looking for something new. (Didn't know anything about the WSM at the time :roll: ) The price turned me away though...
Captain Morgan
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They are indeed expensive. They are more of a grill than a smoker though, right?
Woodman1
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I bought a dozen "Eggland's Best" this morning. No, I have not! Buy a pit and cok like an American, not a Nipponese!
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My understanding is that they're really both. They can hold lower temps for an extended time but they do very well with high temps for searing/grilling too. I don't think they will hold as much as a WSM if you're qing with them though, even with the mods you can do...
jminion1
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I have a old BGE and 5 Primos, I paid $10 for the BGE and the Primos were given to me. One to grill on is plenty in my opinion, searing steaks or pizza at 500 to 600 degrees is very good.
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Woodman1
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I can put four briskets , or eight butts or seven racks of ribs, in my 36" pit. If I knock it over, which I can't, it won't break. You probably don't want to burn a log fire in an egg.I believe that the best barbecue results from the slow burning of WOOD. It cracks (no pun intended) me up that the simplest way, which is really the best value in the long run (my pit will oulast 5 generations of WSM's or Eggs), is the last option that people consider. If it were strictly a money issue, I would understand, but those eggs are not too far off a quality log pit in cost. When I bought my pit, it was my intention to get back to the simplest method of cooking. This is not intended as a knock against the WSM......well, yes it is I guess. But not against any of you guys, whom I love! I think that the new Q'er has a tendency to become enamoured with gadgetry. This stuff can be done with :
a long stick to skewer the meat
a hole in the ground
some logs
Alot of folks recommended that I seriously consider an Old Hickory, or Southern Pride when I was shopping pits for catering. I know that they are "essentially" the same thing as an offset. But to me, there is a certain level of "romance" and "theatrics" that go along with a big old black , locomotive looking offset pit that just cannot be achieved with an Egg, a WSM, or the other aforementioned devices. That being said, who wants to buy my old pit?
:roll: Woodrow
a long stick to skewer the meat
a hole in the ground
some logs
Alot of folks recommended that I seriously consider an Old Hickory, or Southern Pride when I was shopping pits for catering. I know that they are "essentially" the same thing as an offset. But to me, there is a certain level of "romance" and "theatrics" that go along with a big old black , locomotive looking offset pit that just cannot be achieved with an Egg, a WSM, or the other aforementioned devices. That being said, who wants to buy my old pit?
:roll: Woodrow
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Susan's WAY ahead of you FATZ!FATZ said:
Captain Morgan
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jminion said:
I'll give you 20 bucks for it right now. How often do you get a chance to double your money?
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I think this WSM will last as long as I will need it as long as I take care of it ~ I'm not looking to hand it down as I'm sure my kids will have their own WSM or other cooker long before I'm ready to part with mine.Woodman said:
And I'm sure I'm not the only WSM owner that looked at many other types of cookers including offsets before they bought the best (relatively) cheap bbq cooker available. I looked hard at Klose, Lang, Tejas Smokers and GatorPit before I bought my WSM. I couldn't justify the price of an offset knowing that I'd just be qing for my family and a few friends. The WSM is also a cheap investment for those who are not sure they want to get involved in the all-nighters. One day soon, I hope to have an offset. 8)Captain Morgan
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well being a bachelor, the WSM is even too much sometimes! Glad I got a Foodsaver. That's the major reason my mobile rig is a gasser (rigged to be "smoke assisted"). But for some reason I've been thinking about selling it and getting a true smoker. Can't wait till I hit the lottery and buy one of everything!
Woodman1
Executive Chef
Good discussion though!
jminion1
Sous Chef
Good BBQ is the product of good techniques based on the cooker used.
I will say that I have seen more bad BBQ from straight woodburners. Can great BBQ be produce, the answer is yes but the best I've seen don't burn straight wood, it is a charcoal wood mix.
Woody if you are going to do a lot of catering I would seriously consider another style of pit or at least plumbing for gas. There is way too much to do to be spending all the time needed fire tending. I would keep the offset as a show pit for the caterings but I would not consider as my primary pit.
The business is very competitive and wood burning offsets are not as competitive when you factor in time and cost of fuel.
Jim
I will say that I have seen more bad BBQ from straight woodburners. Can great BBQ be produce, the answer is yes but the best I've seen don't burn straight wood, it is a charcoal wood mix.
Woody if you are going to do a lot of catering I would seriously consider another style of pit or at least plumbing for gas. There is way too much to do to be spending all the time needed fire tending. I would keep the offset as a show pit for the caterings but I would not consider as my primary pit.
The business is very competitive and wood burning offsets are not as competitive when you factor in time and cost of fuel.
Jim
By the way...never tempted to buy a BGE!!
Shawn White
Sous Chef
If I came across one cheap I think I would be sorely tempted but I'm not looking for one, nor do I think I'd pay full price even if I was.
I read that a bag of lump can last up to 6 months grilling 2 - 3 times per week. Eventually the thing will pay for itself in fuel savings compared to less efficient units. I also like the hinged lid, the lack of is one thing I dislike about my WSM and my kettle clone.
I wonder if BGE is much less affected by wind & bad weather than a WSM? What about cold/snow cooks?
I read that a bag of lump can last up to 6 months grilling 2 - 3 times per week. Eventually the thing will pay for itself in fuel savings compared to less efficient units. I also like the hinged lid, the lack of is one thing I dislike about my WSM and my kettle clone.
I wonder if BGE is much less affected by wind & bad weather than a WSM? What about cold/snow cooks?
Captain Morgan
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jminion said:
Which is exactly why I bought my gasses, then rigged it for smoke.
Ok Jim, 25 bucks, final offer.
Nick Prochilo
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With me it isn't about the unit, I'm just having a great time smoking and watch all who eat it enjoy it!
Woodman1
Executive Chef
jminion said:
Jim, appreciate the input. I am plumbed for gas. I won't be considering this for a living. If I do 5-9 cooks a year, I will be happy. I have major access to literally tons of free apple, cherry and oak from a friends property. I do believe that , when people, (men) see a big old wood burner, they are facinated with it and tend to congregate around it. They want to have it come over to their party too. Again, this is good conversation ! Thanks Jim, Woodrow
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