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Old 07-05-2008, 10:21 AM   #1
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Hit and Miss Engines

I have seen H&M engines at several shows in recent years and find them to be really cool. I'm thinking of getting a 1 1/2 hp job.
Do any of you have experience with them?
I'm not a machinist. So rebuilding will be difficult. I can do a tear-down, clean up and repaint, but little part making.
It would be cool to have one run a rotisserie.
What do you know of them ??????
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Allrite WTF is H&M engine
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Go to a tractor show and you're likely to see a bunch of odd old engines, large and small, certainly including H&Ms.

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Rag is so old he remembers using these things.
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Doesn't everyone? Excepting the children on this board.
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Old 07-06-2008, 01:23 AM   #9
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A hit and miss engine fires and spins a heavy wheel..when the rpm on said wheel slow down, the engine fires and sets the wheel aspinnen. This is opposed to an engine that fires constantly...
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That's what happens when you hang out with old farts.
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Why not use a small steam engine Rag? You already have a fire burning. You could mount a small boiler in your firebox & run it at 10 to 15 psi. 10 psi of steam will do a lot of work due to the design of the engine. Steam is injected on every piston movement, so its realy a 1 stroke engine.
I have a working live steam toy model & will do a video
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There is a H&M Forester circa 1917 sitting about 50 feet from my front door. 575 cubic inch single cylindar engine. 460 RPM max. It was originally used in the oil fields of Wyoming. The feller that owns it just got done painting it. It is one loud SOB to be sure!

A four stroke by design, they only fire once per stroke. If it misses, the huge fly wheels keep the momentum going to the next stroke. Kind sound like a Hawg only firing on one cylindar.
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This is a post I regret not being in the BR.
I found 2 clubs in my area that promote these little gems. I spoke with a couple of guys from one of them.....said parts are easy to get on all but rare models which means I can recondition a rusty one.
Gary posted a pic of exactly what I'm talking about.
JB, I'd blow my ass up with a steam engine
Some guys rig these engines up with ice cream churns. I can't do that or I would wind up being as fat as Uncle Bubba and Wittdog.
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Some guys rig these engines up with ice cream churns.


Seen at the Museum of Appalachia's 25th Annual Tennessee Fall Homecoming, October 2004 at Norris, Tennessee, that's a 1933 1-1/2 hp John Deere engine driving a 5-gal White Mountain churn.

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(Imagine 5 gallons of Uncle Ron's ice cream, Griff! )
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Some guys rig these engines up with ice cream churns.


Seen at the Museum of Appalachia's 25th Annual Tennessee Fall Homecoming, October 2004 at Norris, Tennessee, that's a 1933 1-1/2 hp John Deere engine driving a 5-gal White Mountain churn.

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(Imagine 5 gallons of Uncle Ron's ice cream, Griff! )
Now that's purdy..
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Here's my neighbor's Hit & Miss engine. He has kinda of private museum in the works.
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He also appears to have a couple old Fords.
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He also appears to have a couple old Fords.
And a teepee. The fords are restored Model A's.
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This is a post I regret not being in the BR.
I found 2 clubs in my area that promote these little gems. I spoke with a couple of guys from one of them.....said parts are easy to get on all but rare models which means I can recondition a rusty one.
Gary posted a pic of exactly what I'm talking about.
JB, I'd blow my ass up with a steam engine
Some guys rig these engines up with ice cream churns. I can't do that or I would wind up being as fat as Uncle Bubba and Wittdog.
But nowhere near as good looking!!!
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