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Old 07-14-2010, 10:20 AM   #1
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BBQ Central "Official" UDS Thread

I am not sure I have the authority to create anything "official," but here we go. This thread is meant to be a think tank of all the UDS knowledge members wish to throw together. This would probably be a good place to post questions about the UDS, build pics, and plans or links to plans. Initially some of this may be reposting the old info to get it consolidated, apologies.

If someone has a problem with this let me know and I will change it.

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Now onto the fun part- My build pics/plans will be comming up soon, although I don't now know if I will have time to finish this weekend.

What I have learned so far is how to recondition a drum and purchase one- the rules are as follows:

1) buy food grade drums, 55 gallon or bigger, steel only - be willing to spend $10-15 for a used lined drum.
2) buy reconditioned, unlined if possible (slightly more expensive)
3) craigslist and local warehouse type places are best to find these (cheaper) - ask what was in it when you call.

to recondition a drum with a liner-
1) pay to have it sandblasted if you can afford it (my quotes were well over the $30 people suggested I pay here)
2) you can burn it out with a weed burner (glowing red hot to burn liner out), the grind with angle grinder or wire brush on drill. Wash Drum. Make sure you paint/"season"(bake on oil) soon after exposing bare metal to prevent rust.






More updates to come. Thanks to everyone who answered my questions so far (I am sure there will be more to come). If I can help anyone with part of their progress to redneck smoker godhood...just ask.
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Old 07-15-2010, 10:57 AM   #2
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Your da man Nick. Thanks for starten it. In the future type in UDS in a search and it'll pull up this thread. We needed it. I'll post all my UDS cooks in here and if it's posted under another topic and involves my UDS i'll post the link. Thanks again.
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Old 07-15-2010, 04:02 PM   #3
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I have a few intake ideas I wanted to shoot you guys' way. I think I saw these elsewhere, but am not sure how they did it:

Idea 1) After installig ball value, remove hand & install tubing from the nut where the handle attaches and extend the handle to the top of the drum for ease of use.

Idea 2) Use flaps over the hole instead of a pipe nipple&ball valve and attach a metal dowel as a long handle from the flap to the top of the the drum.

Any ideas if these would work? I dont want to extend the pipe itself, just the handles.

Issue: I have read a lot about calculating the amount of exhaust venting required. I think it I saw max intake=make exhaust, but I am not sure. Will the vent on the weber lid be good enough to vent the 4 3/4 pipe nipples going on the drum? I guess the only time it would really matter is if I have a lot of it open for chicken.

Issue: Suggested space between two stationary grates? should there be 6 inch clearance here?

Issue: I have specs for a firebox from pickledpig. Does the ash pan need legs to sit like 1/2 to 1 inch from the bottom of the drum? The fire basket is already 2 1/2 inches from the ash pan itself and I plan to use something really thick and get all welds.
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Old 07-15-2010, 04:52 PM   #4
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I have a few intake ideas I wanted to shoot you guys' way. I think I saw these elsewhere, but am not sure how they did it:

Idea 1) After installig ball value, remove hand & install tubing from the nut where the handle attaches and extend the handle to the top of the drum for ease of use.

Idea 2) Use flaps over the hole instead of a pipe nipple&ball valve and attach a metal dowel as a long handle from the flap to the top of the the drum.

Any ideas if these would work? I dont want to extend the pipe itself, just the handles.

Issue: I have read a lot about calculating the amount of exhaust venting required. I think it I saw max intake=make exhaust, but I am not sure. Will the vent on the weber lid be good enough to vent the 4 3/4 pipe nipples going on the drum? I guess the only time it would really matter is if I have a lot of it open for chicken.

Issue: Suggested space between two stationary grates? should there be 6 inch clearance here?

Issue: I have specs for a firebox from pickledpig. Does the ash pan need legs to sit like 1/2 to 1 inch from the bottom of the drum? The fire basket is already 2 1/2 inches from the ash pan itself and I plan to use something really thick and get all welds.
The tube is just a long metal rod threaded on both ends to extend the handle. I just bought a 2 buck elbow and a 3 buck 18' pipe ad moved the ball valve up that way.
Not sure what you are talking about with idea 2 (got pics?)
the Weber is enough I only put 3 3/4in holes for intakes I've found i can run with caps on 2 and just the ball valve open to hold temp. The only problem i've had is when you take the lid off you can have a spike my first cook I could never recover it cruised at about 350 the rest of the day. Second cook i payed more attention adn was more careful when opening her up and she ran for 12 hours @ 230-255 and only used about 8# of kingsford blue.

My barrels were too short for a second grate so I just put one in @ 24" from the bottom of the fire basket.

I used a ~15x15 grill grate out of a smokey mountain charcoal smoker and just wrapped a 12inch sheet of expanded around it. had the grate welded 3in up from the bottom. I just sit that directly on the bottom I'm not really worried about an ash pan (shop vac mod works well getting the ash out of there). I think you'll be ok leaving the ash pan on the bottom.
I'll try to take some more pics of mine. I didn't take construction pics because it was so typical a build.
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They are affectionately known as the ďFat Man ValveĒ.
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Old 07-22-2010, 01:02 PM   #6
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Ordered my drum today!
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Ordered my drum today!
Excellent. Just in case you hadn't seen this......

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Old 07-22-2010, 11:43 PM   #8
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Is your ordered drum really stainless? Because yours will immediately be far more fancy a drum than the rest of us! Congrats!

I thought I would post all the tools I needed so far:

Gloves
Weed Burner (if burning out-best charcoal lighter ever now that Im done burning)
Propane tank (see above)
Step Bit that goes up to 1"/1" hole saw
Power Drill that doesnt suck
wire brush bits/course sanding bits

optional:
angle grinder
welder (or at least a friend with one)

This probably looks dumb, but I didnt have some of this to start with as my wife and I have been married for less than a year and I was a care free college guy a while back.

So far I have spent:
$12 Drum
$30 2 22" Grates
$50 weed burner
$15 propane
$44 step bit
$20 bolts, nuts, pipes, and ball valve
free weber lid
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$171 and all I am missing is the fire grate

paint and penut oil was free from dad cause I bought his drum.

if I were to do it again now that I had the tools it would only be like $77...for a smoke with the same capacity as a $400 WSM. I also imagine it would take me less than the 5 hours it took to burn out. I anticipate about 8 hours total to put this together, which makes this a saturday project.
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$12 Drum
$30 2 22" Grates
$50 weed burner
$15 propane
$44 step bit
$20 bolts, nuts, pipes, and ball valve

The look on the wife's face when she sees a public park's trash can smoking in the back yard,,,,, PRICELESS!
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I may have missed it, but what do you coat the inside of your barrel with? The one I am getting is unlined and just has the rust inhibitor on it. I am guessing I need to do a pre-burn and then re-coat it with something?
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